I do carry that way, however, with my 1911. Practice holstering and unholstering without a round and see if the trigger is pulled. I have no worries about the gun going off when holstering it or even worse going off by itself while in the holster as many Glocks have done when a fold of the holster got snagged inside the trigger guard. Or remembering faulty? But, IF I were, then Id have to choose that DA revolver in my headboard. Me personally I carry a snap cap in the chamber, so if some lucky bastard grabs my gun and shoots hes about to be dead. You shoud not count on having both hands available while being attacked. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Here we have a conundrum. My God, WTF is wrong with people who bash others for simply doing what they choose to do? Notice if the trigger is ever depressed. Usually for at least an hour or so. In my own case I carry a gun because ITS MY GODDAMN RIGHT and being prepared for the defense of my life is a purely secondary concern. I think the Glock leg argument is kinda straying off into another argument, that could be a good idea for its own article. Width: 1.18. And that is the key to any methodology, simply having the proper training. there's always a round in the chamberBG's don't usually give you a timeout to rack one in +1 Besides everyone knows the cool racking sound scares off any bad guys : ), Yes. If one wishes to carry sans a round in the chamber. All terrific replies. Cocked and locked . P.T. this aint Dodge city and you aint Bill Hickok Blam, Blam,Blam! So you are in reality arguing that if someone makes a *negligent mistake*, the Glock is more likely to discharge than another firearm. A 1911 or single-action pistol in Condition 1 is comparable to a striker-fired, safe-action pistol, like a Glock, which is always in a semi-cocked condition when a round is in the chamber anyway. Next, there was some discussion about GLOCKs. There is also one of an off duty cop pulling up his pants and firing his clip draw equipped pistol. The Glock 17 is a full-size pistol that is chambered in 9mm. Id rather they stop production than change a design thats gone on unchanged for as long as it has. YouTube it. 1:43:08-1:43:32. And my Ruger .357. I got two strikers, finally, couple years ago, a 9mm and a 40. There is no way to put a round in the chamber without leaving the striker cocked, and there is no safety. That was back in the 1970s somewhere. . FNS9-C. You have to train how you'll fight and fight how you train. (Take that, NYPD!) The list of pistols that have a drop safety to prevent the gun from going off unintentionally when impacted is quite long you need to look no further than any of the handguns allowed in the . They said that it was the fault of Glocks having a super light trigger. . Now youve introduced a firearm where one might not otherwise have been involved, not to mention triggering the bad guys own sense of self preservation. I hope to later, but I just moved to a state that allows it, and our first child just turned one. It may be injured or busy striking or holding back children, etc. Think about Her all you Geniuses that sing the siren song of the Utopian world of Glock. But how often are you a klutz when handling or holstering your firearm? Always eith one in the chamber, hammer down and safety off. In my experience, here in MS, a great many people have a great many home defense firearms of various descriptions. Some extras, just in case one breaks? Say, if you can make that mistake (and you did), are you willing to admit that maybe, just possibly, youve mad other mistakes? More bad advice, did the author not learn from his first mistake? There are a lot of older pistols manufactured without a drop safety feature. #5. Until I do, its one in the chamber with safety engaged and hammer down on a DA/SA pistol. In fact, it uses S&W Shield Plus magazines. The general answer is most certainly yes however there are a few considerations. . Um, Smith & Wesson doesnt use a transfer bar, they use a hammer block. None of those things make any difference at all. On Amazon, they run about $35 just sans the NRA stamped door. How often are you drinking a glass of milk, or spilling coffee, or having a horn tooted at you while actually handling or holstering your firearm? Still chambered in 9mm, the G19 measures 7.28-inches in total length. Perfect analogy. Because they have no external safety, Glocks are quicker to draw and fire. Didnt check that the gun was clear. The Glock 26 Gen 4 weighs approximately 25 ounces with a loaded magazine. OH NO! There are advertisements for trigger jobs on striker fired guns to make them with an even less pull weight!! Why, I havent the slightest idea. And I dont want to have to think about anything. Firearm experts, including myself, consider the design completely safe and dependable. lol 15 in the clip one in the pipe. Just saying. Normally, empty chamber carry adds an average of maybe 2/10ths of a second. Certified Glock Armorer, Colt Armorer, FN Armorer, Beretta Armorer, Smith and Wesson revolvers Armorer. so i compensate for that with situational awareness and trying not to put myself in situations or places where that will happen Carrying a Glock 26 or 27 in "conditon 1" (chambered) is comparable to carrying a loaded S&W Jframe revolver. It appears to me that Darwin and his theory of evolution is again being ignored, if you are dumb enough to carry without forethought, please ace yourself before you breed. Each brand-new model enhanced the pistol and its functions. . Made up a little fixture to hold the gun on a piece of pipe, stood up on a ladder and let the gun fall onto its muzzle. Just go to there web site, or go to your gun store for more information. Not exactly. Carried chambered until the kids came. . or not. The reason that the Israelis carry with an empty chamber is because Israel does not have a concept of self defense. The practice of empty chamber carry continued with the introduction of magazine-fed, semi-automatic pistols. Seattle is like a miniature version from a driving perspective. Considering the capabilities of the average glock owner, in front of the muzzle is likely the safest place to be. They're fun, handy, and can be very practical. The fix was to add a safety. Make that line above into: a solution in search of a problem. Hmaag [CC BY-SA 3.0], via Wikimedia CommonsTodays revolvers have a flat hammer. True dat. It still works now, so long as the comment page is more than three years old. Like a handgun, the defensive long gun should be secured in a safe or one of the wall-mounted quick-access locks. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! Some folks in the comments section raised objections, as they are often wont to do. I now carry without it, with one in the pipe. on second thought I dont wanna know. Big Bill: Yup. Does the Glock fire then? If you want one of it, you must like it, so why wouldnt you want more? I got them after watching the best experts I know of, champions, and their green light review. Like what would happen if the gun was dropped, and then lands on its muzzle. I actually think thats worth a healthy debate and article all on its own. For those afraid of carrying cocked and locked or striker-fired guns, the XD-E is a better choice than chamber-empty carry. I made a folder called TTAG comments, and put all pages Ive commented on in there. Big Bill: First, mad would need to learn what punctuation is for. I thing Mossad guys are well trained, just saying. This has nothing to do with car=privilege firearm=right. There are 5 in the house right now; computer room (where I am) living room, bathroom floor (beside the throne) and both sides of the bed. The Glock Gen 4 and Gen 5 models have actually ended up being popular with civilians and self-defense shooters alike. They have defense of the State, of their comrades, or of other citizens. If the slide goes back far enough to be out of battery, then the gun will just fire out of battery. Is A Glock Safe To Carry Chambered. Open range is a good movie and as far as the other guys standing there in real life its called shock value I did love the the fact Costners six shooter magically self loaded. Well you can either use it as a gun or as a brickI like mine to be carried like a gun. You rotate the cylinder halfway between the nipples and lower the hammer on the carry notch. You've only seen one page. The Israelis do it, and I do too. Glock originally designed the gun with an exposed hammer and their marketing agent said are you joking no one in their right mind would buy such an unsafe weapon because they can see that the hammer is cocked back. While I agree its better to have a round in the chamber, I dont, not at the moment. Back in the old days of guns, they didn't really have any safety at all. The gun is DA/SA, so the first shot is a long pull on the trigger, but I routinely practice it, so Im OK with it. I wonder how it avoids the googlebots? I carry "Mexican" and don't want to end up like Plaxico Burress. Yes Sir I do and the ones scattered in the house also. If you cant train yourself to keep your finger off the trigger until you have made the decision to shoot any gun is dangerous in your hands. A revolver with an empty chamber under the hammer IS ready to fire. You carry your way and Ill carry mine. Belittle all you like, there is only one gun in my house which I will not keep around fully loaded, and that is my one Glock. The trick is training is to do the right thing; doing the wrong thing is still training, just training the do the wrong thing. The Last Word. Or a DA/SA auto. If the pin has enough mass, it will fire the round, chambered or not, hammer blocked or not, trigger pulled or not, out-of-battery safeties, etc. When suddenly a rabbit rushes out of the brush, I sometimes forget to switch off the safety. Again, carrying with an empty chamber isnt wrong, but it just isnt quite right. 29 July 2022 by srnoj. Glock claims that this translates into longer pistol longevity as well as better accuracy overall. I agree about the Colt SAA. Even in that highly unlikely scenario, the gun would likely kill them anyway, even without going off, by blunt trauma alone. I really would like to know if theres a response to my comments. I appendix carry my 42 chambered, the holster covers the trigger so I feel safe carrying this way, I been carrying this way for a while without issue. For gun owners looking to maximize the life of their firearms, it's important to understand what type of ammunition is acceptable and safe to use in their guns. Doesnt come into play until youve already fired 5 times. Please note Im not saying glock = bad. Not the first time I have seen you feed the gun grabbers agenda either. Go get a titanium firing pin. Not only that, but the holster allows you to "re-holster" off body which also greatly reduces the odds of clothing or something getting caught in the trigger guard. Lets face cold hard facts the more chances you take the more likely you will run out of luck, usually much sooner than later. Descriptions: Glocks are safe to carry with a loaded chamber as long as they are carried in a decent holster that completely covers the trigger. Seems more in line with your abilities. On Firefox for my Linux machine it even goes right to the place on the page I was when I saved. If you can have a momentary lapse of judgement handling a half million ft/lbs you could certainly have one while handling 350. Same here. Why You Should Keep One Bullet in the Chamber. Anything is possible, which is why the smart move is to play to the best probabilities. Go. The reason was that there wasnt anything between the hammer and either the nipple or the primer of the cartridge. There is at least one fully loaded firearm in every room of my house and my shop. Back in the old days of guns, they didnt really have any safety at all. Ive been carrying mine daily for five years and will continue to carry it as long as I can. The off hand comment was to the effect of glocks being less safe to carry with a round in the chamber than others. I carry with a round chambered in my autoloading handguns. All I get is replies that they are working on it. Agreed. Do you supposes THIS guy knows the six letter word for a firearms dangerous end? -John Muir. Often, its holstering the gun into a holster that compromised by clothing. Sound off in the comments! When you thumb the hammer back for the first shot, it only rotates 1/12th or the way around instead of 1/6th. Well saving room for some ice cream after dinner is a bit higher on my list than any damn LDL or HDL mumbo jumbo. I really, really wish the powers that be could find someone to get this comment section to work right. Its kind of unneeded though, because inertial firing pins can only build firing inertia on their own if the whole gun accelerates, and then stops suddenly. For the most part.if the gun goes offsomeone pulled the trigger. 1 of 2 Go to page. They have defense of the State, of their comrades, or of other citizens.. https://patents.google.com/patent/US5724759A/en. Im still a believer of an empty gun is just a club. Almost always comes back to the trigger. As for the replicas, these are hit-and-miss when it comes to carrying on an empty chamber. I have a CCW and am carrying the Glock in a Galco Stow-n-Go IWB holster. No permits needed, no interference from the State. Run what you brung. Glock then redesigned the weapon as a striker fired weapon because they knew the average low I.Q. If youre going to pocket carry, get a pocket holster. Yes. Much longer than a Glock, twice as heavy as a Glock. Yeah, me too. They are: Glocks are completely drop-safe and are one of the safest pistols you can carry. Unlikely. Therefore, its unsafe(ish) to carry or store with one in the chamber. Are Glocks Safe To Carry Chambered. Sad, isnt it? Is a cheap one as good as a safe from, say, a Liberty or Rhino? There is one thing very different between handling a car and handling a weapon a 4000 pound vehicle traveling at 62mph carries over half a million foot pound of energy vs ~350ft/lbs out of your little 9mm or .45 pea shooter. All except for that one guy above who thinks muscle memory means hell never make a mistake, ever. BTW.. Glocks have a 5.5lbs trigger pull so I doubt it will discharge from your love handle rubbing on it. Glocks have a very long trigger pull. 1 - 20 of 30 Posts. Modern handguns are designed to be carried with a loaded chamber. Are Glocks Safe To Carry Chambered. So instead of just grabbing said gun from the night stand and chambering a round, I should keep it loaded and put it in a lock box so that I can fumble around with a tiny key and try and put it in a tiny hole in the dark? Glock 23 Handgun. Ron DeSantis Says He Supports Adding Open Carry to Floridas Permitless Carry Bill, Defendant Agrees Appeals Court Should Uphold Injunction Blocking New Yorks Law Banning Carrying Guns in Sensitive Places, Judge Robert L. Miller: Its an Insult to the Founders to Assume They Didnt Expect Gun Control in Future Generations, https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/the-truth-about-6-5mm-ammo/, https://patents.google.com/patent/US5724759A/en, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p28yT3Z3oj8&t=7347s. And, it actually impeded officers ability to hit a target. WOW! Ask the famous Black Athlete Plaxico Burress that did that in a New York restaurant a number of years ago. I worry that my flesh pushing against the soft holster will somehow depress that little trigger safety and nudge the trigger back. Ive done this quite a bit when rabbit hunting. 2 you may forget to chamber . If you are so scared of a striker fired trigger, then why not get a hammer fired gun? Confused fool. There are also the safety concerns . which for them is unwise because it feels utterly unsafe to do so My three-year-old knows that for her bb gun. Old school, extract, thumb, trigger finger, rinse n repeat often until autopilot takes over. I forget just how stupid people like you really are your response is so childish and you carry guns I hope you dont blow your face off looking down the end with six letters grow up. Kathy Jackson suggests that doing this safely comes down to two things, equipment and habits. The initial pull of this trigger performs generally the same function as the thumb safety of a 1911 or single action. Between the trigger safety, the firing pin safety and the drop safety I feel very comfortable carrying it chambered. Big thing, its hammer fired and its also DA/SA, so I have no problem with chambering a round and lowering the hammer. Carry chambered ever since. If carry my Glock its in a solid Crossbreed holster with one in the chamber. See? At Incognito Concealment, we're confident we have the right holster for you. If I feel the urge to admire, use and hold a finely engineered machine I might just as likely pull out and ogle any one of my watches, of my bicycles, of my cars, of my surgical instruments, of my fountain pens or of my firearms. It completely wraps the pistol in hard plastic so there is no chance of anything flexing into the trigger guard. When the fight starts, ejecting a live round onto the ground, or hearing the click of a empty chamber, will just mess up your day, maybe your last day. Clearly not enough to train for scenarios where chambering a round can be life or death. Is A Glock Safe To Carry Chambered. And, Mad, you really like those ad hominem attacks. I was shown( Thank You RES), yank that sucker out, moveaim, fire. Whatever stage you carry your weapon at be consistent. Just the easier reloading of the old Ruger 3 screw models (or any other regular types like the Colt SAA) vs the new ones, makes up for that one extra round, at least IMO. In that book, they suggest that the proper way to carry a semi . How often do you train your driving abilities?. My AR is half loaded with the mag in but unchambered. A GLOCK is a striker fired pistol with about a 5.5-pound OEM trigger pull that has incorporated into the trigger--in the form of a lever--and when it is engaged blocks the trigger from moving rearward. The best line of all time is Dirty Harrys. Is it a lot of work to train to the level where you never get it wrong? Unfortunately, the safety is on the wrong side of the slide for me so I dont use it. Well, technically, you could also just not drop them I suppose. What is wrong with such ones is that they get a nice, warm, mushy, feeling of superiority over others by putting them down. If anybody could advise me, I'd be grateful. 1. From someone that ignorant, nothing he says or does would surprise me. It will go off. Absolutely. The end result is the same, but the means to that end are directly opposite in how they function. Modern revolvers (Smith & Wesson, Taurus, Ruger, Kimber) have transfer bar safeties and as such theres no need to mention it.
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