Having actual data for comparison, can on,y help us make informed decisions instead of just buying into the latest hype. That said, when a ball goes significantly offline in a robot test, it’s plenty obvious. When I saw results for Chrome soft, I decided to run my own tests. Confirmation bias is a powerful drug, and with so many factors contributing to the success of each shot, it’s far too easy for any of us to see the performance we want to see. I’ve found Srixon Z and Qstars to be very comparable. Did you crown a most consistent ball? Bobby, if you look at the raw data under std dev, it shows the MTBX is 21.52, which is the worst in that column. Bridgestone has the best balls! I hit all my clubs in the middle of the face ( everything fitted) and it’s satisfying to hit a premium ball like the prov1 well, plus the sound. The ball simply reacts to the force exerted by the club. The srixon q-star tour had an average offline for 115 mph driver swing speed of -1.71 yards (one of the best in the test) but the standard deviation of offline was 20.05 yards which i think is one of the worst. I love y’all. People often don’t realize that backspin is what stabilizes a ball flight. Best article I have ever seen written on golf ball testing! Definitely stuff that’s worth a look, especially if the performance characteristics are appealing to you. But in the end, I’m just trying to help them uphold their #consumerfirst stance by pointing out the fact that none of these results really amount to anything more than moving product for the #golfmanufacturerfirst movement. I would propose a testing of the “Most Played Balls” from each ball type (beginner/mid range/”tour”). Just wonder on best ways to choose/experiment. So what I would say is that the balls are close, but not identical, which is why there are some differences in the launch and spin characteristics. Interesting comment about twins. Golf balls do NOT go the same distance, and the actual differences from ball to ball might surprise you. Hard to beat $28 per dozen vs. $48 if the ball performs. One step further, when I’m not practicing at least a couple times a week in addition to playing, I’m just as likely to do well with a 2 piece Surlyn ball (OK, an exaggeration, but you get what I’m saying) . I actually went MTB-X for launch angle. They can’t make a recommendation for you on which is the best ball for you. I understand that testing takes time but wouldn’t be prudent to show the slower swings speed people how they can benefit from this type of information. Yes, but not so far as to lose too much feel. While some models are positioned at the fringe of the category, the goal was to include a majority of 3, 4, and 5-piece balls generally classified as Tour Balls. There are no logos or player dots/lines or other user markings on any ball. Cause that would play a huge difference in results. This test could only have been done this way to matter much. I routinely hit 300+ so distance is not an issue for me, but over the past few years I have noticed a slightly tougher cover on the Prov1x’s. The data is great for adult players but not all that usable for Junior golfers with swing speeds below 85 mph. So has it been confirmed the the TT version of the CSX is a different ball than the prior retail version? Curious, might you have the “total distance” with roll out based on spin? and then do a weighting of % driver vs. % irons vs. % wedges and it will absoltuely spit out a ball for you. I am having a hard time understanding how it is possible for a manufacturer to produce such inconsistent compression ratings. Even if it didnt include my ball, great stuff none the less. We only saw an appreciable difference at high driver speeds. I play the Srixon Q-Star Tour and it is the longest ball I’ve hit in some time. One of the softest golf balls ever made in the world. Multi Flight was designed for larger groups, that perhaps hosts 2-3 flights over the weekend, or a social club that organises 5-6 flights every week, or a golf club or event organiser that wants to organise a full fledge 36-flight tournament. Calloway….wow…. Guys like DB make some great points (really talented golfers can use 30 year old irons and persimmon and still beat the tar out of average golfers). Is it hitting driver less? Does it really matter? Walter, most of my testing was done using my 2017 Taylormade M2 driver. YMMV, but Srixon markets this ball to golfers like me, and it delivers. If you like the 55, just imagine the same ball with a softer feel, a higher ball flight, and a slightly softer landing with roughly the same overall distance. At least that’s how it reacts to my clubs and swing. I’ll take the increase in distance and the lower score. Vice Pro The average ball at this speed traveled 204.01 yards. I don’t have a driver swing speed of 115, but i am consistently over 105, usually 108 or 109. Did you do much testing on feel besides compression? It may be that they don’t have a stricter quality control. Where are you getting the -21 yrds offline? But arguably the most important golf equipment item was left out: golf balls. I have always leaned toward the prov1x but hope someone can shed some light on which direction we should be looking. A long, soft, cheap ball, with relatively low driver spin. Did you use a robot for your tests? I shot near par with my old persimmon woods and blades same as I do now with my Callaway Epic driver, titanium fairway metals and Cobra irons. Please explain why you think the MTBX should rate so high with a stat like that. But again, you were two clubs closer not because of a ball… the ball doesn’t magically go 15-20 yards further just by going from one brand to another, it depends on your swing, club face, speed of the greens/grass and if your hitting fairways. I am confused on whether you tested the Wilson Staff Duo Pro (video seems to show this box and the link to purchase) or the Wilson Staff Duo Urethane (which the graphing lists?) So what we looked for were performance characteristics we believe would be beneficial to a wide swath of golfers. The big thing to remember – fit the ball to the irons and wedges and then fit the driver to the golf ball. USA consumers may care that both have factories in the US. The cause could be one of a number of things – ball out of round, uncentered layers (most notably the core), aerodynamic issues (dimple irregularities, raised seams, that sort of thing). How did you find the durability? While some models are positioned at the fringe of the category, the goal was to include a majority of 3, 4, and 5-piece balls generally classified as Tour Balls. Going farther is great but I want straight or consistent flight direction. Also, the ball does not have cut marks like other balls I use with softer covers. Thanks again for all your hard work! If you have a problem with anyone’s testing results, as I said before, everyone should choose a ball that fits your game. Not everyone’s cup of tea…but CSX is great for me. Is there a top 3 best for dispersion left or right? Consistency is VERY important, and might very well offset any price savings from balls with less consistent flight patterns. Am I cheating myself by not buying a higher priced ball? It’s pretty obvious that this test proves it is the best ball out there and for 30 bucks you can’t beat it! The best golf balls to buy in 2019 1. Perhaps your Most Wanted $550 driver isn’t working out quite like you had hoped it would. and academies take advantage of this feature to also create clinics that enable new golfers or even seasoned golfers to have access to golf instruction and golf coaching at the driving range. But I also may be losing 10 yards with my 98mph speed. You’d be amazed at the time you save rather than checking with friends one by one if they’re available for a round of golf! I ended up moving on to the Chrome Soft X because I couldn’t live with the wedge spin, particularly in half shots around the green. Tony, great review and overview of golf balls. I am dropping my existing ball and using those in this list as my new basis for comparison. We’ve seen many successes that help these golf clubs increase their rounds by just posting games. out there that do tee time bookings, GPS, scoring. In the results they say to select both 85 & 115 mph and hit Apply. Any tips on how a beginner should choose a ball? “tremendous inconsistency” is worthy of the DNC press army. There are only so few golfers around the world, why not connect all of us together so that we all have more liquidity in terms of games, which will further benefit the golf industry in all ways! My take away is, if you can afford urethane by all means do so. Overall balance, as indicated by the float test, is what you want. I noticed a difference, period, end of story… Can you please do an article about proper ball fitting? I always knew the Chromes Soft X wasn’t the longest ball but what I couldn’t quite figure out was why my 110 mph swing was carrying it farther than the 115 mph robot. BallDistance (yards)Deviation (yards)Callaway HX Pearl246.18 (1)8.91 (55)Bridgestone B330245.03 (2)4.84 (4)Titleist Pro V1x244.97 (3)9.38 (59)Top Flite XL 5000 Straight244.79 (4)5.96 (16)Pinnacle Gold FX Long244.26 (5)8.25 (49) Hit the shots you want to hit and as many people have said, start closer to the green and move back. Bonus is they are cheaper than Titleist, can’t see changing any time soon. If you cannot or will not spend $25+ bucks per dozen then you might as play. I know I did. Srixon z565 irons 5-6 C-Taper Lite stiff, Srixon z765 irons PW-7 iron C-Taper Lite stiff – irons 9 thru 4 The MTB-X was great. I am trying to figure out which ball that is from the data, but there really is no way to figure that out I think. I have lost distance with the driver on multiple occasions like sometimes 20 yards. Firmer balls are faster, generally longer, and as an added benefit to many golfers, they spin more around the green. Furthermore, I’d like to thank Tony Covey for checking in on the thread and further explaining testing procedures, variances and the importance of being fit personally. If I hit one shot 20 yards right (+20) and another 20 yards left (-20), my average of the 2 will be 0 yards offline ((-20 + 20)/2 = 0). Really put me off playing yellow balls! It looks like the Z Star has tight dispersion for the driver and 7-iron – 3235 in combined speed driver, and 1041 square yards in combined speed 7-iron. They test, and re-test, and test again, and then deep dive outliers, anomalies and head-scratchers to determine if the results are either substantiated or just a fluke. A few weeks ago I get an email from MGS on the new Maxfli Tour. However the Tour X is on avg 9 yards longer than the TP5x. Particularly at lower swing speed, the differences are minimal. Q: Why did you choose to use a robot for the ball test? The MTB-X is rated highly in your test but you also say the compression can vary up to 30 points within the same box? Barely a flesh wound. If anything, I just ordered a test box of the Snell MTB’s and will be putting those through the testing ringer. Is it perfect? Lol that’s probably more your swing then the ball.. I’ve been playing it for a few weeks now and I love it! Titleist and TaylorMade are doing the same marketing (with an additional personalized freebie). So start golfing using Deemples golf app and we will make sure you never play golf alone. Excellent test and report guys! There’s quite a bit of difference when it comes to who makes what and where. Same result. Very serious durability issues. They performed very well for me in cool and windy conditions, and I shot my best 9-hole score so far this year. I am looking at buying the Snell MTB X, but since you only tested the white ball do you think there will be some variance between the yellow and white MTB X? , tee time, number of players, and green fee. The one thing that’s not adding up for me is the shot area calculation. They’ve been great all around for me but have really shined with the wedges. With the 115mph clubhead speed, the Srixon ZStar is at 1.53, so 95% of the shots fell within 1.53 yards of eachother. If your ball is too cold, or too hot for that matter, you may lose speed and control. Despite being an average priced ball it has the potential to cover the same distance if you compare them with other best quality balls. I would like more detail on why the high dispersion area and offline numbers? I don’t know about Snell balls, I have never hit them but know the TP5 and the Kirkland 4-piece and they are outstanding competitive offerings. Every ball brings with it some sort of compromise. Go look at all of these club test results again and see how little difference there really is in the final data presented. Most “mid” balls are softer balls, and as we’ve heard many times: “Softer is Slower.” Also, Quality Control costs money, and the only ways to get the price point of a ball down are to minimize quality checks/testing and to use cheaper components and production methods. ProVs were always better. Generally, the best way to kill spin is to reduce loft, so depending on where you are now, and what the flight look like, a lower lofted, lower spinning driver (Titleist TS4???) No feel and distance was lacking. It is because of the softness of the ball and the control it provides. When we start splitting hairs about these results, it becomes a joke because any 1 degree of driver face twist at impact can taint any drive or test. You guys have changed the industry standard of testing. , register for an account on Deemples, then start creating your golf rounds with your preferred playing date. Fantastic test! That’s probably not you. I do however like the feel around the green with the Kirkland and I putt very well with t too. Bubba might have given them a bad rap when that 1 year trial didn’t work however people should at least try a sleeve for themselves. From the video, it seems possible it was only one. Would that make you lean towards a Titleist or Bridgestone as the best all around ball to play? You didn’t mention which balls failed #6? Although getting the best golf balls in 2019 is not an easy task, as there are certain vital factors to be considered due to the varying brand design and technological innovation available in the market presently. I used to play the ZStar, but tried a couple of other balls last year. Neat to see slight differences in Srixon. Buy a 4 or 5-pack…costs $42.99 each. My driver speed is about 85, but working on improving it. If feel is meaningless then there’d be no need for blades or forging. Just the right amount of spin for a guy with one set of characteristics may be too much spin for another. They sure do, don’t they? They’re slow off the tee AND they they don’t spin off irons AND they don’t spin off wedges. Compression is overrated; the mantle and dimple design matter a lot more. Respectfully as I can possibly be – ARE YOU SERIOUS WITH THIS QUESTION? "How do I find the right golf ball?" On high-speed iron shots, the low compression balls rise to the top for distance, most notably the Bridgestone Tour B RXS and the Titleist AVX. When you look at the “longest” ball for 85MPH and 115MPH you’re likely talking about a small difference. Sorry, I tried to reply to your comment about the Snell pricing. If the ball can’t fly straight consistently when given the correct hit to produce said flight then there is a problem. Performance was also lack-luster out on the course. We made every effort to eliminate any variable for testing. Snell ship to the uk and have for a while, I use snell “get sum” balls I ordered them beginning of season £99 for 6 dozen. Great stuff, though I am really struggling with some of the shot area/offline figures. I don’t understand how robot testing in a controlled environment could produce some of those dispersion numbers, unless wind varied greatly on different days or something. Is the theory that it’s down to aerodynamics of the ball? What seems to have been otherwise lost is that we quite literally ranked 4 balls ahead of it while rating 8 others exactly the same. Generous offer, but really – no point. I don’t typically play a fade but adding different shot shapes / swing patterns is a sound concept. Also I took this data and basically most of the testing the MGS crew does to help me narrow down my choices based on my swing speed, swing characteristics and how I spin a ball or not spin a ball. Snell MTX sounds amazing but I dont know if I can get used to that feel on putts. Then I started serving up more slices than Tony’s Pizza Parlour. Awesome work! As you’ll see below, there’s a strong correlation between compression and ball speed. I bought a doble dozen pack and have the following to say. These days, clubs irons and driveways get plenty of attention. That’s why your high spinning wedge shots tend not to slice the way a driver does. I have stocked up with the buy three get one free. Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. The 4-piece is no longer available. At 7-iron speeds, the relationship levels a bit, and we see softer balls rise to the top of the carry charts (below). Many of the smaller brands are a step further removed from the process in that they’ve played minimal to no role in the design but instead have purchased and branded a white label factory ball. We might do a test of one ball at some point, but definitely a full scale thing. There are two types of golf balls that have been manufactured under this company and both of them are successful for amazing construction. Guys – one of the main takeaways here is that one size doesn’t fit all, EVER, when it comes to golf balls. If you don’t like the data or test or the way they setup the test then don’t use the data. Very Good was solid to exceptional performance, with a red flag or two in the data or because of something we observed during testing (Snell MTB-X looks incredible in terms of launch and spin and speed, but we did see the occasional ball wonder off the target line. MTB black is good, but nothing about it jumps off the page. It’s still up there for the 115mph swing, just not the longest. For a ball which has performed so well otherwise, such poor accuracy seems like a worrying anomaly. If the balls cover is falling apart after a few wedge shots, I’d say they’re right to access poor quality. The only way all these MGS tests would really carry any weight is if they were to re-do the tests three or four times, using the same equipment, same conditions, same everything, then really dig into the results over multiple test samples to see what reality is. Spin decreases by ~2500 which is where the distance comes from. Like me, they were all ProV1 players. Just won a couple dozen Snell MTBx’s in a Snell contest and am looking forward to giving them a go. I know this is absolutely stupid, but I have played much of the past year with white and yellow AVX balls (prior to reading MGS EXCELLENT scientific review—Calloway’s sour grapes press release notwithstanding—and have now changed over to Snell balls) and my overwhelming IMPRESSION is that the yellow AVX are softer and less “clicky” off the putter than the white AVX. Bob, thanks again for your reply. 115mph driver is where we saw the really crazy stuff (balls flying 20, 30, even 40 yards offline). Over the course of the test, there were several “holy shit, did that just happen” moments. I tried the Bx from bridgestone and the brx too. If you do that for 65 mph swing and the 7 iron and Wedge, please share it here. On wedge shots, dispersion is generally excellent, with all but one ball (QStar Tour) falling within a yard of the center line. We all love the way that shot looks, but what you need is green-side control, and that doesn’t always mean you want the ball that spins the most with your wedge. Do you think that it works? Sounds like Snell, Kirkland and Vice are great alternatives to pricey OEM balls! The Vice Pro by comparison appears to be a much more consistent ball but it is only ranked as Good. If I am looking for a great performing tournament ball then anything in Excellent or Great category should work? Not due to test results, but playing I found the ball to give me the best results. Once you’re done creating, invite your friends using the share button to your golf round so that they can join you easily whenever they can confirm participation! We had a few balls in the test that produced shots severely offline (it’s pretty mind-blowing when it happens with a robot). Dispersion is great and distance gapping btw clubs is most accurate from my testing btwn TP5/X PV1/x. Simple reason. The Tour BX, for example is fast, but it doesn’t spin as much around the greens as some other top balls. But if any of you are running out and buying new equipment based on these tests then the only thing they are really accomplishing is getting consumers to go do more consuming. Despite Titiest saying that the Pro V1 and Pro V1x balls being the balls that most people will turn to, the AVX will offer something slightly different for most golfers. All balls performed about the same for me 100 yards in. I think the average for all balls was about -8. I’ll have to try the MTX version when my supply of Blacks runs out too. We can’t emphasize this enough. Just because XYZ ball had the highest ballspeed on a robot test at 115 mph doesn’t mean it will for you – but it’s probably worth a test. I think you should return them to Costco and get your money back. Feel over performance? I sure hope so, as well as all the others too. All of the std dev data points to it being a solid golf ball. I would be interested in knowing if MGS tested using this technology or not. Two swings of identical speed, that have different impact characteristics, will not produce the same outcome as the robot. After seeing the test I switched from the Chrome soft to the Pro V1X. This was such a fun read. I spent all last season ball testing is how i came to this conclusion. Was this dispersion due to wind? I apologize if this has been addressed, but I did a search that revealed nothing. But when you get your swing to YOUR best, then you should be able to tell the minute differences. Regarding dispersion – in hindsight, we’ve seen that golfers are getting caught up in the absolutes (inflating the value of a yard or two…or even fractions of yards). So my feeling is if I can’t hit my approach shots closer to the hole consistently, how is driving the ball closer to the hole going to help me? Stdev’s are low. The guy I talked to insisted that the 2019 CSX TT is exactly the same ball as the 2018 CSX with the same core, cover, and compression. One question is when you say The aerodynamic piece is difficult to quantify, but otherwise, it’s not difficult for a manufacturer to churn out a ball that performs like [whatever ball you want it to perform like].
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