Why do we need 12 steps when the only step our Saviour has told us to do is repent and turn away from sin/evil. We will all stand before the judgement seat of the Lord, and give an account of our lives. Celebrate Recovery has moved to Community of Hope Church on Thursdays at 6:15PM. This was all completely orchestrated by Yah, and He even told me that I was going to be her sponsor before she asked, however I not knowing the truth about AA, or the 12 steps, I was a little confused with the strong caution and hesitation with not only AA, but the 12 steps. Turning our will over to Higher Power. 3. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. St Boniface Church-Franciscans. I agree with much of what you say about the spiritual aspects of AA. 2. I sat down with my bible on my lap, that I could not open, but with Scripture memorized, and words that I knew to speak. If you have a drinking problem in 2014, or a drug problem, or a gambling problem, your medically, socially, culturally, and politically mandated solution is a set of 12 . This is evident as you compare each step with the scriptures. Celebrate Recovery gives the support and love that so many churches fail at. I believe sin is a sicknesses. Compromise your own values and integrity to avoid . People were healed and delivered from blindness, leprosy, epilepsy, demon-possession, sexual lusts and perversions, etc. Some people understand what weve been through and some do not. I did not understand that this was a New Age practice, which was to focus on specific auras coming from different points of my body. I confronted her on the involvement of Rick Warren, AAs non biblical stance and that basically she and others are leading people astray and that they should be presenting the gospel of sin, repentance and being set free from bondage. Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of Gods mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God this is your spiritual act of worship. He partied in college at the University of Missouri and as an officer in the air force, and his drinking habit grew as his career in business took off in his 30s. for the living to the dead?(KJV). The group leader has been through step studies multiple times and still struggles with her problems. It wasnt until I became a facilitator that I began questioning the program. 2 Cor 11:13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. There is nothing greater than the blood of the Lamb, the true Creator of the Heavens of the earth, and the King of Kings Lord of Lords, Yeshua. As such, the potential for a relapse to occur is very high. I did not fully know why at that time, but I just did as the Spirit told me to do. While a lapse can be a single event such as a poor decision of going . C. C.R. Plight of the disillusioned. I will say too, that these programs do sometimes act as a religion and Ive seen that for myself, but just as when I go to church or study my Bible, I have to let God guide me away from the false preachings and allow Him to give the message that is meant for me. The Celebrate Recovery Bible has been designed to work with the resources developed and tested in the national and international ministry of Celebrate Recovery. Or perhaps a sort of alternative that is more Christ centered such as Celebrate Recovery? So, I hope that in sharing the truth with people within AA, you are not identifying with this. I understand that people, even those like myself, have been helped through these programs, however, the ultimate purpose of these programs are to lead people to dependency on the program itself, which is why in the 12th step of the AA program it teaches to: 12) Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs. Joy of living is the theme of the Twelfth Step. 70 percent of the people that attend are not church members because they feel that the churches have let them down. They didnt attend any program, they just hit their rock bottom which is only decided by the individual suffering addiction. Mental obsession plus physical allergy. Start your new life now! I will also provide links at the very end, that I found helpful while doing my own research, that may help you as well. This is what I did, as led by the Holy Spirit. Celebrate Recovery is a biblical and balanced program that helps us overcome our hurts, hang-ups, and habits. It is strongly advised that they remain focused on themselves until their sobriety is strong. So, it is important to keep ourselves pure from false doctrines and teachers. Some Celebrate Recovery groups offer childcare: "Celebration Place" for kids and "The Landing" for youth. I admit that I am powerless to control my tendency to do the wrong thing, and my life is unmanageable. So if I forgive God, then that makes Him limited and also makes mistakes? Jim, thank you for your comment. Do not ask others to meet your needs or desires. (Pgs 5-6), Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.Joy of living is the theme of the Twelfth Step. We all have issues that may be interfering with our fellowship . Bakers ministry began in 1991 at Saddleback Church in California and has spread to 35,000 churches nationwide over the decades. The ouija board got moving in earnest. Get the most recent headlines and stories from Christianity Today delivered to your inbox daily. He wanted to also save lives, now. Get our Question of the Week delivered right to your inbox! The phrase do not throw out the baby with the bathwater, with regards to programs and practices like AA/CR, is overriding several biblical commands to come away from such. Through much prayer, and acquiring the Fathers will, the Spirit instructed me when I needed to go back, to finish what He had begun in me. There are many who have either themselves or known someone to have gone through AA, NA, Alanon, etc. My faith was empowered, as I knew it was my time to speak His Words. Celebrate Recovery roots the 12 steps in biblical principles, and its final step charges participants to use their recovery to spread the good news. Perhaps, in learning these truths, God might want you to share this with others; and yes, while you are correct, it might, and probably will offend. Celebrate Recovery is a ministry committed to seeing lives changed and healed through Christ. After I spoke, the atmosphere was so thick, you could have cut it with a knife. Initially when I went through rehab, now over 13 years ago, I went briefly through AA(Alcoholics Anonymous) as it was a requirement of the rehabilitation program I was part of. Just as those in Acts burned their magic arts, so should the Alateen/Alanon and AA books be destroyed. These first three steps of the 12, undermine the gospel, and allow an individual to accept whatever higher power they choose. It may use terms like god, creator, higher power, however, the god and creator that they speak is not that of Jesus/Yeshua. Both were heavily involved in the occult, and many of the practices that were endorsed in Oxford Group, continued on with the establishment of AA. This is what brings us to our Lord. These were also women who professed His Name, one even ironically being from Saddleback. Whatever my point of willingness to believe and have faith to walk in and with him is where he meets me. The one woman though, who had praised Jesus, wanted me to stay and chat with her for a little while. They meet at Family Life Church on Monday nights at . apearlinthevineyard.com, 2018. This program is not something that you complete and then all of sudden, Hey, Im better. If there is darkness in the AA program leading people astray, what better place to set up a lamp stand? (RNS) John Baker, co-founder of Celebrate Recovery, an evangelical support group that helps people with "hurts, hangups and habits," has died. Prison Fellowship president James J. Ackerman collaborated with Baker to add Celebrate Recovery Inside to its curricula. (KJV), John 10:7Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. I was a facilitator for CR at my church. A new state of consciousness and being is received as a free gift. Readiness to receive free gift lies in practice of Twelve Steps. SPEAK TO SOMEONE TODAY. Our staff is up-to-date and knowledgeable, and we are standing by to help you on your road to recovery. Rom 6:23For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord(BSB), Mark 16:15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature(KJV), 1 Cor 6:20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are Gods(KJV). Happy are those who know they are spiritutally poor. The Participant Guides are designed to create movement through the steps as each person is on a healing journey that creates new understanding and hope through the work of the Holy Spirit, and not . Many of these events are documented in the books of the history of AA, as well as Wilsons official A.A. biography. Romantic relationships can be a great source of happiness in sobriety, but they can also be the source of great pain. Promote your Celebrate Recovery Chapter with a Full Color Vinyl Banner! It is a tactic of the enemy within the thoughts of men to say well, how can this be bad, if I have seen good in it. Because even darkness can appear as something good, that is why Eve took a bite of the forbidden fruit. Your email address will not be published. Mark 14:38 38 Watch and pray so that you will not fall into temptation. AA is just another false religion, trying to go in another way: We have no desire to convince anyone that there is only one way by which faith can be acquired(Alcoholics Anonymous Big Book, pg. Whether you choose a Christian rehab center that uses the Celebrate Recovery program or follow a different approach, you can find the help you need to live a sober life. We will be held accountable for the truth that we were given, and at the expense of our flesh, rejected. Strongs Concordance 1 Peter 3:17For it is better, if it is Gods will, to suffer for doing good than for doing evil. Pastor John was never content just to save souls. Jesus said He came to bring a sword, not peace (Mat 10:34), this means that truth will divide, and the outcome may not be peaceful because of offense. The Celebrate Recovery Bible on Kindle, iBooks and Nook are also approved curriculum. When I was very young in my faith and had little discernment into things and practices I was doing, I had gone to get a different kind of massage called a chakra massage. There are many who have either themselves or known someone to have gone through AA, NA, Alanon, etc. Celebrate Recovery is just another type ofSyncretism, as mixes Gods ways with heathen ways. Once they are settled in their new . Wilson, or Bob for that matter, never professed Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, never mentioned repentance, or that the only Way to the Father is through the Son. We cannot trust our experiences and how we feel as a sole measure of something to be good. I have yet to meet an alcoholic who can not relate to Proverbs 23:29-35 no matter what they believe in; its a great introduction for a drunk to the Word of God. AA is a religion. What followed was the fairly usual experienceit was a strange mlange of Aristotle, St. Francis, diverse archangels with odd names, deceased friendssome in purgatory and others doing nicely, thank you! What partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? So before I continue on with my story, I would like to go through some areas of AA. Even the very symbol that is used on the AA book is very occultic, as seen from the pictures provided. Celebrate Recovery founder John Baker, who turned his testimony recovering from alcoholism into a biblical 12-step program used by more than 7 million people, died unexpectedly on Tuesday at age 72. It is basically peddling the same lie that Satan spoke in the garden, in that both Adam and Eve would achieve knowledge apart from the wisdom of God. This is what I encourage people to do with the writing of this blog, and not leading people blindly into a program that has led many to accept a false gospel. A person can not only be intoxicated physically, but also spiritually: Isa 29:9Pause and wonder! Staff was great, attentive to our needs and" more. Celebrate Recovery is for adults 18 years and older. Roughly in 2014, I was going through some books in our bookshelf, and my eyes came upon the Big Book (Alcoholics Anonymous), and an Alateen book that I had for quite a long time. It also anti-christ as it denies Yeshua/Jesus as the Only Way(1 Joh 2:22-23, Joh 14:6). Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? The only way for that to happen is through repentance of these programs/doctrines. Recognizing these dangers will help you avoid a possible problem in the future. 3525 nph properly, to be sober (not drunk), not intoxicated; (figuratively) free from illusion, i.e. Lost faith found in A.A. The truth is that my life was saved. A person could choose Buddha, Allah, Shati, Satan, as well as AA itself. And Love indeed had a pricethe price that Yeshua paid with His own life. However, the cost of sharing the truth with others, is rejection. Thank you for sharing. Alcoholics and Addicts are deeply inflicted with this sin sickness. A Believer cannot be equally yoked with unbelievers. The magnificent reality. This is why it is so important to know who we are listening to when it comes to worship music, and where that music is originating from. Celebrate Recovery is a biblical and balanced program that helps us overcome our hurts, hang-ups, and habits. Wow. See ya, Baker said. He instead, as is mentioned in the Big Book(pgs 12-13), made his own god, professed this god to be the Father of Lights and was led by this god-consciousness from within, and insisted that all he had to do was believe in a power higher than himself, and nothing else was required. How should a Christian view addiction? This is a good read and that is what God has laid in my heart over the years of my addiction and recovery. This is why we are told to come out, Be ye separate, Be holy, as He is Holy. Email vriggins@graceclarksville.com. The program began in Rick Warren's Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California, and is now used in churches around the world. In fact, there are many programs and practices that may appear to be beneficial to the mind and body, yet when we test those practices against the word of God, they are proven to be false. As they had all turned their backs on Yeshua/Jesus and His Word, they then had no problem turning their back on me. Dangers of self-sufficiency. Variety of ways to faith. The messiness of addiction is too much for many churches to handle. Dishonesty in recovery is dangerous because: It is a common relapse trigger. I brought up that step three goes against the first two of the 10 commandments, and that there shall be no other gods before Him. However, what is the true motive of this program, what is it's foundation, and is it suitable for those who profess to be walking with Messiah? Baker is survived by his wife and Celebrate Recovery cofounder, Cheryl; children Johnny and Jeni Baker and Laura and Brian Gibney; and their grandchildren. Alcoholism is not a disease. 25 years ago, Saddleback Church launched Celebrate Recovery with 43 people. More insights from your Bible study - Get Started with Logos Bible Software for Free! I began slowly and shared about the woman Yah first had me sponsor, and I recited Acts 2:38, and I went through the 10 Commandments, and what sin is, and what repentance is. Celebrate Recovery is simply AA but with a disguise of a false light, a false gospel and a false Jesus. The last thing I want to do is delve deeper into my issues/motivations/whatever. This is a dangerous form of denial. Thanks for your post. I would like to serve Him some other way, in another ministry. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. To find out if these will be offered at your group, please call the contact number. In such ways we want them to get sober in any way that works for them so not to affect others. I know, for me, it wasn't hard to recite the 12 steps in solidarity at a . Show me the Buddha worshiper or the person whos higher power is a rock, and I can pray that God will use me and give me the wisdom through His Spirit to share Gods Word and the Good News with that person. Set your hope fully on the grace to be given you at the revelation of Jesus Christ. Are extremely loyal, remaining in harmful situations too long. One of the worst things that an individual can do in early recovery is jump headfirst into romance. His whole purpose of me going there was to gain insight into these areas, help those who He placed across my path, and then expose and confront the lies of it. So, below I have steps 1-3, and 12, all of which were quoted directly from 12-Steps and 12-Traditions. Giving that asks no reward. We are here for you online 24/7! Spirit Word Church (8.9 mi) 4849 South Lindbergh, St. Louis, Missouri 63126 United States. Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? Structured as an ongoing 52-week program, The Landing aims to help hurting teenagers get closer to Jesus as they learn key principles based on the Beatitudes to live a . You bring up several great points, ones that I became very familiar with while attending the program. I choose to stand on the word regardless who believes or not. I then took out my bible and began to read until both I and my time was finished. (Mat 16:19-20). How can I start a Celebrate Recovery Starting a Celebrate Recovery is an exciting step for your church! For it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose. He delivered me completely of alcohol, and a great many of other things. Continued on with my story above, I started to attend Celebrate Recovery(CR), as prompted by the Spirit, even with the knowledge that it was a program that was directly tied to Rick Warren and Saddleback church: John Baker was an alcoholic and staff member of Saddleback Church who began healing through Alcoholics Anonymous. 12) Having had a spiritual experience as the result of these steps, we try to carry this message to others and practice these principles in all our affairs. The Birthright: Salvation and the Role of the Firstborn, Christmas Unwrapped: Why I No Longer Celebrate Christmas, The Deception of the New Age Awakening through DNA, Why I No longer Vaccinate: A Veterans Story. After the meeting was over, all the women left, did not say anything to me, just turned their backs and left. I was also told that alcoholism is a disease, and that once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic. There were many practices/beliefs that I was led to not partake in. Creation of C.R. Create a safe place for hurting teenagers to overcome life's challenges by launching a Celebrate Recovery ministry-The Landing-for the students in your church, with the The Landing: Celebrate Recovery for Students Kit.. While I want everyone to come to know Jesus Christ our Lord, it is ultimately their decision. Quoting from my blog: Many seem to believe that as long as something appears good, and that someone is helped that it must be of God, when this is simply not true; while He can draw His own creation to Him, in whatever circumstance they are in, this does not mean that it is His perfect will for them to continue on in what they are doing or involved in. So, I was immediately led to Acts 2:38, and the Spirit had me to start at repentance. I was immediately confronted after the meeting, and then again when I arrived the following week, as I was pulled aside by the lead woman of the group. 314-607-8165. The Danger of Teaching Information Without Application By Rick Warren I believe the number one problem with preaching in America is its lack of application. To produce good fruit, a practice or program has to be sound in the word of God. There was initially some resistance, as I have witnessed with so many others, as this becomes a crucial point for many, as they take that step in obedience. Next, I moved on to being baptized, which both my husband and I were able to actually do for her. I couldnt wrap my mind around the Beatitudes being misrepresented in the steps of CR. Other than that they all denied Him, and His Word, and praised the 12-step program, based upon AA. The program seems to tip-toe around sin and evil instead of calling it out as such. Contact: Bob & Pam Bay. Problems of intellectuality and self-sufficiency. Manny blessings, and I will be praying for you! (Luke 9:23) In such, our reward, or our treasures will be laid up greater in heaven. Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10Nor thieves, nor covetous, NOR DRUNKARDS, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
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