I don't doubt people are saving money using the Eden Pure heater because "zone heating"I has to save money by not heating unused areas. Bill Burkett was the CBS source in the Killian documents affair of 2004. It claims 1000 s f for the gen 4 and it will do that just as well as most heaters. That's right. Bigger homes and those in colder climates cost. The point that needs to be understood is that any type of room heater that you utilize to perform "zone heating" will save you money. Only if you needed this type Of heater. FACT: Of course it will. We have the 1000, and the 1000XL, the are the first ones. Endenpure I dont know till I get it. The Air King 8132 1500 watt ceramic space heater covers areas up to 150 square feet. at a fraction of the cost,with the same heat output a far fewer failure rates. By not heating the unoccupied rooms of your home, you will cut your heating bill. If your electric company charges you 10 cents per kilowatt hour and you run a 1,500-watt space heater for 10 hours, that will cost $1.50. the other heater 1 year old the heater tube burned out' I saved $200.00 in heating bills , but spent 300.00 more on electricity. Nothing has changed. I was going to purchase another EdenPure this year for the downstairs, but after seeing the .25 per hour and calculating the cost, that will not save money. Thanks to all of your warnings I will now seek out a nice space heater for around $50 or so and continue to heat my home the same way I have been, just keeping the space heater handy for when I want a little extra heat on colder days. (FYI: the same goes for room air conditioners.). Reverse-cycle air conditioning is 300-600% efficient, which means that it can take one unit of electrical energy and turn it into 3 to 6 times as much heating or cooling energy. I called them again and realizing that these things must be nothing but junk I told them that I just wanted a refund. FUVM. Edenpure tried to be disingenuously suggestive. The best way to save money (in the long run), is to not only comply with your electricity company replacing things in your home that will give you a lower rate per kwh. Sorry folks, some things I forgot to point out One item that they point out in the Bob Vila scam (I can't call it anything but!) The copper is pretreated to soften the copper . They can be made of solid fabric or in the case of honeycomb (cellular) shades can be a blend of paper, lace, and/or fabrics. Like EdenPure it uses the same technology, 'infrared quartz tube + PTC'.this is what gives the heaters the longevity. Plugged it in and it ran for about 3 minutes and died. Bob Vila gave two types of scenarios. However, your actual price will depend largely on the size and type of heater you choose. Thank you for the validation. 2) Say you live in a 11,000 sq. I've been in the HVAC field for 40 years. Edin Pure used to give you 2 models (large and small).Sam's Club usually sells Quartz heaters at a competitive price. Because heating up a room with electric heat is the most expensive way to do it, simply closing off furnace ducts to unused rooms would result in bigger savings using an EdenPURE, and it would not involve the cost of a new heater. They don't claim it will save you money. Connect with Us PH: (269) 428-2723 PH: (877) 494-9357 Contact Us Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 20, 2012: Ritamarie, thank you for the lengthy comment. If a portable electric heater serves your needs, a low-cost model will kick out the same heat as an expensive model. Al Metcalf if you want to call them stupid go right ahead anyone with half a brain can debunk your hair dryer vs heat gun theory. I used to think Alex Trebec was an honorable man, but after seeing him and others like him offer this insurance that IS a SCAM for seniors, I have no respect for him. Want a great laugh? I bought the Gen4, have it in the living room in the center of the 1250 sq feet, and I have not turned on my heater. We bought an Eden Pure Gen 1000 a month and a half ago and lo and behold our electric company called today because they noticed a huge spike in our usage, as a matter of fact our usage has more than doubled. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it. They are perfect for sleeping. The point has been made of how some feel about it. Second is that you can lower your thermastat while only heating an inner room. I don't care who it ripping me off if I am getting ripped off. There is no combustion taking place in any electric heater, and no oxygen is being used. If you have 5000 BTU, you can comfortably heat a space around 100-200 sq.ft with outside temperature of 20-30 F and typical insulation. The same amount of air goes through. Let me first say, I have been praiseing the Edenpure for about 6 years. Common applications include space heating, cooking, water heating and industrial processes. Oh, yes, and for the guy who said how can the ceramic remove moisture from the air, if you will look, there is only one model that is also a dehumidifyer, so it is both a heater PLUS a dehumidifyer. Other heaters I've used don't keep the rooms warm because the controls don't allow the versatility that the EdenPure does. I tried to return the heater and it has been a running around to find the right place where I purchased it from. I finally find the place and they said i only had 30 days warranty not 60 days. If I spend less, good. It is now the 12th of Jan. and no heater. Doubled Electric bill, no effect on gas consuption. If you buy one of the cheapies to make do, your dollars are going out the window. It doesn't mater what's inside the box. I will not buy an Eden Pure until they correct the post sale issues shown here. I bought Edenpure heater in December 2010 and my january heating bill doubled, and what they sent to me is not what I ordered from them. We tried their medium wings and a couple of the burgers. There has got to be heat loss, because travels a long distance from the furnace ouside to the farthest point. You're a blind moron, since you started name calling, when I'm just trying to help people out. Receive a $75 bill credit when you enroll your eligible smart thermostat in a qualifying demand response program through one of our authorized thermostat providers. I have a ceramic cube heater I bought 25 years ago for $19.95 that will. CLAIM: With other heating sources, you'll notice you get sleepy because they are burning up oxygen. If I was Bob Vila I would not put my name on the product if they cannot get anyone to anwser the customer service number or even return your calls. I called the company so I could exchane it but I have to pay shipping. the first home I woned was a manufactured home, and I first used zone-heating to beat the cost of heating the outdoors through the leaky ducts (until I repaired them, of course !) Once these last bulbs burn out, I will no longer use this over priced heater. We have provided heating and air conditioning services to residential and commercial homeowners since 1981. Whether it saves more money than all the others is not the issue. Cellular shades can save you as much as 20% on your energy bill, too. Zero marketing at that point. I've read enough negativity about these units I've decided to stick with name brands (Honeywell etc.) sellers and buyers must dedicate ourselves to paying the cost of doing the right thing or the one who doesn't dissappears. About 8 years ago, I got an estimate for ZONE HEATING for my home including the garage. I might buy a DuraFlame simply because it is the same and half the price. I have natural gas heat and now I like it even more. Why oil-filled? If you want to prove it to yourself then put a thermometer in two of the same size rooms that start out at the same temp and are the same size turn then both on the highest setting at the same time and watch the temp increase I can promise the hair dryer will win. They, too, use energy, but not . The pilgrim done swallowed the hook too. It is a 20 x 15, a pretty decent size room. For the guy who said to close off the rooms and the vents in those rooms, don't you know that can damage your central unit. I also have a $39.99 portable oil radiator heater that I purchased from Lowes. In some situations yes but in some no. Kromstraat 25 1.2, 2520 Ranst, Belgium. If a portable electric heater serves your needs, a low-cost model will kick out the same heat as an expensive model. Felt bad for the guy. This is an all electric home the highest electric bill in the winter has been $276 . Out of stock at this time though. PUT A THRMOSTAT IN EACH LARGE ROOM IN YOUR HOUSE THEN INSTALL A SWITCHER TO CONTROL EACH THERMOSTAT IT CUT MY BILL IN HALF. You suffer from the "curse of knowledge" (having a bias based on what other people have taught you) . The EdenPure heater uses 1500 Watts. Another thing that I doubt some of you would do to save $$$ on your electricity is to get used to the early morning cooler temps by wearing sweats. In other words a room measuring 6' x 7'. dont buy one these heaters mine was wsed for fore mounths and now it quit wrote them they said the tubes are 36.00 plus 6.95 shipping. Burkett, William W. (Galena, MO, US) Burkett, Glenda Sue (Galena, MO, US) Application Number: 10/996346 . An electric heater can do the job for an unheated sideroom or shop where the cost of a furnace or duct work would be prohibitive. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. I spent aA LOT of time researching!! They work by drawing electricity over the course of a few hours at night, and storing it as heat in a 'bank' of clay or ceramic bricks to use the following day. There not trying to rip you off or scam you. Electric space heaters fall into four main categories: fan heaters, ceramic, infrared, and oil-filled. All of your honest comments and reviews have just saved me from making a huge and costly mistake. Yes, you can buy heaters for less, but do you trust leaving them on during the night or when away from home. Common sense. If you sheeple need to believe otherwise, so be it. Design in an electric heater is everything. Bill Burr announced spring and summer North American dates for his Live Nation produced 2022 arena and amphitheater tour, Bill Burr (Slight Return), visiting 23 cities from April through August including Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse on April 23, 2022. Mr.Vila and Eden Pure do you really think it is fair game on humanity to peddle your wares on them? Question: Is any heater like this okayed by Insurance companies? I use the original carton for storing my heater in the off months. Bobby Burkett ( Logan Huffman) is a promising quarterback for a struggling high-school football team. Have now started a dispute claim with my credit card company. I called the customer service number 1-888-294-0280 and never spoke to anyone after being on hold for hours and I even left my home number and they never returned my call after being assured they would call. A 1500-watt heater will produce at most 5000 BTUs. They make for a much more comfortable room than ceiling fans. Please check with your Demand Response Aggregator for eligibility. They basically cut our heating bills in half and keep us nice and warm during the cold Pennsylvania winter nights. Why do you think they would do that? I have a Master of Science degree in Electrical Engineering, so I can tell you with precision that EdenPure's claims are false and misleading. Get notified about new Tester jobs in Ranst, Flemish Region, Belgium. Thanks for the good info that saved me. My Gen 4 burned out in 2 years, Eden pure company claims they will send me new quartz heating tubes but I want Bob Villa here to fix it!!!! Everything is on the website and on the adverts. Build a mounting box out of 2 x 4 lumber and 3/4-inch plywood that will allow you to mount the new tankless water heater about four inches out from the wall. Heater vs. AC unit. Its a different volume of air being heated for different applications. Ventilation Fans. I have gas heat but use this at night to warm my bedroom, rather than raise the thermostat to heat the whole house. Some people still can't get it. Which means you get 100% of what it cost you. Nonetheless, they can be useful for heating small spaces, such as a small room or office cubicle. In repairing my ductwor, I found one unattached duct that was heating my attic! Was given to me as a gift and I'm looking to buy a second unit for my second floor. I was about to order an eden pure online when I saw this site and decided to read consumer comments first. [1], Burkett had received publicity in 2000, after making and then retracting a claim that he had been transferred to Panama for refusing "to falsify personnel records of Governor Bush",[2] and in February 2004, when he claimed to have knowledge of "scrubbing" of Bush's TexANG records. I'll definitely buy another. I bought one several years ago and saved like at least 100. on my first electric bill. Lucinda from Michigan on December 03, 2012: I got my 1st heater in nov.20011 and used it for 5 months and up for the summer I got it out on oct.25 20012. I am not endorsing any unit of any other just telling my experience with this unit, so do what you will with my comment. Answer: Virtually all electric space heaters at Amazon do the same heating job. Unh uh !! If you have any questions with any of our products both before or after your purchase, please feel free to contact our customer service department at 1-877-432-8639. THINK ABOUT IT. So, that means 50,000 in insurance is going to cost that senior 500. a month. Would i buy this. There are none so blind as those who will not see. I live on a mountain in Colorado. And third, it provides soft radiant heat that EVENLY spread around the room. of insurance. It didn't work so i sent it back to BIO RESEARCH in ohio. 4) Contrary to this article and many of its posts, the reason why infrared heaters have been so successful is not because of slick marketingprimarily it has been word of mouth. I am filing complaints against EdenPure ad commercials where I can, and working to get my mother's money back! As well as my cats! Claiming an electric heater will reduce your energy bill at all is stretching the truth. Once again use your heads and think about what you need. Love my EdenPURE heater! I put up with very high bills until last year from what is no more than a heater that was supposed to be a heat pump, meaning it runs on heat strips. I have been in this house for 10 years, so in 10 years, I have spent just in those 3 months alone $15,000. Here are the facts - 1) Duct loss in a basement is not always a bad thing , if your basement is too cold you risk freezing pipes so if the temp. A UNIT is $1000. This is an electrical climate-control system which provides heat as well as refrigerated cooling. Answer: A radiant barrier is a thin reflective fabric. I'm currently waiting for my new EdenPURE 360, do you have an opinion about this one? [3][4] According to the review panel, investigations by major news outlets at the time, including CBS, "revealed inconsistencies which led to questions regarding his credibility and whether his claims could be proven". Those heated water molecules will warm the human body faster than air molecules. ****. I have two Eden Pures in my home and they really work. The EdenPURE performer the same as my $50 Lasko electric heater. The square feet/cubic feet issue comes from EdenPURE ads from a few years ago when I wrote the original article. Mobile homes are really bad for heat loss. I don't think this is a good business now I have a machine that doesn't work. I'm absolutely thrilled with my unit. And yes the personal heater that heats 50 s f is only the size Of a prison cell. heater was done on his own time in his own garage with his own tools and therefore would be outside of his scope of employment. Thanks. Therefore, a 10' x 10' room with a 10' foot ceiling is 100 square feet, but 1000 cubic feet. Both heated equal areas in comparable ways, even though the Lasko only costs about $50. Also Bob Villa states Zone heating (room or smaller area) not the whole house. There was an ad/coupon in the Sunday paper and then I caught the informercial on tv and felt I had found a good thing. Why would Villa want to be associated with this ?? I have tried to return it for refund, but had to have the ORIGINAL shipping container, which I do not have after 2+ months, and neither Bass Pro Outlet nor Edenpure will accept the return w/o original shipping box, which Edenpure will NOT sell me because they say they only have one container per heater produced. Since you heat all the air, nor just the first 12 inches off the floor, cubic feet measurments are required. The heater might be graet but at this time I don't want to take that chance just incase it is not what BOB VILA claims to be ture. She points out their parents had electrc heat in a double-wide. It has exactly the same power of 1000 to 2000 Watts as everything else including EdenPure. FACT: Nonsense. So, for those looking for a way to reduce your bills, why don't you have your attic better insulated, replace your windows (if needed), and have a new heating unit or units installed, finance it all, and pay the extra on the payments instead of on the extra electricity you are using now. With the economy and everyone wanting to save money, it is shameful that Mr. Villa put his name on this product. Otherwise, save yourself about $400 and pick one up from Lowe's. I'm paying $0.17 per KWH, or $2.04 for an 8 hour run per day. Ductless Heating & Cooling. Less expensive models one have tubes. You cannot beat basic rule of physics saying that energy does not come from nowhere, and does not disappear to nowhere. They definitely do state 1000 SQ.FT., not cubic feet.I really don't need you to explain to me the difference in cubic feet and square feet. The clue is in the word personal . The number one reason not to buy a Bio Tech Research Eden Pure is people just like you and me on this site have given specific factual examples being abused after the sale by things which should have been disclosed before the sale. Since heat is really part of the light spectrum, reflecting it back into the home has value. I don't know where you get your sources, but you need to learn to integrate less bias if you expect anyone to believe you. From $15 to the cheapest electric coil and fan garage heater (which I wound NOT recommend as it actually burns oxygen in the air), to $250 fancy infrared "wood stove-looking" (electric, of course) heater. I've had my EdenPure for over 10 years and it's still going strong. This year, 2010, we noticed that the unit was not at all effective. The above people are correct, you can only get so much heat out of a given amount of electricity. Ive been heating the entire house with 3 Edenpure heaters (only turn on one downstairs when Im there). Are the so called experts on here thick or something. This sure seems to be a scam. I do not believe Bob Villa has used one for the main heating in his home, but I do believe he has likely used it for zone heating. This guy can't read apparently. If they did, they would have to absorb water, wouldn't they. Edenpure heaters are CRAP. They make you confused with names, like US 1000, GEN 4 1000, GEN 3 1000. Both the gen 4 and the personal. ", They would be dedicated to making sure the expectations of an ongoing pleasant experience that is designed into the commercial would be realized to the end of product life. Many have been running now for well over 5 years and run almost constantly all winter long. Its safer than most to. ft. Bob Villa uses the same deceptive wording as the company. Propane gas-burning fireplaces. I am sold on the Eden Pure, but I will have to say I did see one just before seeing this page that is described much in the same way as the Eden Pure Gen4 but is marked down to $219. I bet they will not stand behind the heater because you cannot get anyone to answer the phone and they just want you to give up. I first spent a few dollars on insulation(extra)it paid off! P.S. According to these naysaying braniacs her hairdryer should put out more heat since they claim all heat sources are 100% efficient, etc. For those of you who have high summer bills, I saved $1500 over the spring and summer months by setting my thermostat on 80 degrees and using floor fans (not box fans, but those on a stand, those that put out a lot of air). long time no see stevo it took me ages to find it this is there contact, and some info ,ring them for advice ,say mick give you there number. References. Suarez Corporation Industries / Pinnacle Systems claims of a US-1000 or Gen4 having 20,000 hour bulb life contains as much truth as a politicians typical campaign speech. And the glaring discrepancy between SCI's unsubstantiated bulb life claims and what consumers are reporting about the actual bulb life with the Edenpure products shows that SCI's claims have no basis in fact. yes my electric bill is higher when i run the eden pure, but my gas bill is greatly lowered, my main furnance mainly runs during the day when we are a work, because i dont like leaving the eden pure running when we are not home. We have unplugged our Eden Pure and have decided to think of this as a 300.00 back up heat source in case our gas furnace takes a dump. However, the radiant barrier can't be sandwiched between two objects as the contact point transfers heat away quite nicely. State notices to consumers [affirm.com/licenses]. [8], When asked about Burkett's role in the controversy, David Van Os, Burkett's lawyer, responded with the hypothesis that someone may have reconstructed documents that they believed existed in 1972 or 1973.[9]. A friend of mine purchased 2 after experiencing my heater. What a bunch of scam artists. ELECTRICAL ENGINEER on December 16, 2012: First of all, 120vac appliances are very inefficient compared to 220vac. The key to these are you heat the rooms you are living in during the day so you use your furnace less. Had I chosen to update and insulate when I first moved here, I could have done it for that price or less. Keep up the good work EdenPURE! Just picked one from trash. I could not see any savings at all. You do the math. Think about it, if you heat with gas you turn this thing on and turn the gas down then the increase in your electric bill well more than makes up for what you save on gas. I was specifically sold on Bob Vila's endorsement of the product thinking I can trust the home improvement guru. Options depend on your purchase amount, and a down payment may be required. Also, dont buy Cub Cadet. Investigations into his military service led to the Killian documents controversy. For all those engineering types, HVAC types, etc. Electric heating is a process in which electrical energy is converted directly to heat energy at around 100% efficiency, [contradictory] using rather cheap devices. The Gen 3 and 4 buyers beware, you're just the new victoms, your heating bulbs will probably be higher, because they are newer and new and improved. Sorry to sound so negative in my postings here, it's just I hate to see people get taken, especially someone who believes what they are sold on TV infomercials like these. A FEW YEARS AGO A CITY ELECTRIC INSPECTER TOLD ME SOMETHING THAT REALLY WORKS. These are the dimensions of a jail cell, not a room. Furnaces. Burkett's Heating & Cooling is a premier choice for professional HVAC services in Piqua and Sidney, OH, and surrounding areas. The heater is a point source of heat. My heat gun is about 5 times hotter than my wife's hairdryer. If it runs 15 minutes out of every hour, it is only delivering 8,000 btus. When I phoned to know what the cost of a replacement bulb would be a year ago they said they did not have any except to put in new units being shipped which is why I waited til now to look into buying. The big SCAM not mentioned is the advertised life of the Edenpure US-1000 or Gen4 heaters. It does not lie if you read carefully, but still, misdirection, celebrity endorsement, and colorful marketing meant to make the consumer believe overblown claims cannot make the EdenPURE portable electric heater anything but a scam. It just says if you use an Eden Pure heater to do "zone heating"I you will save money. Is anyone anymore really honest? Heat from any 1500 watt electric heater will cost you $35.60 for 1 million btus of heat if you are paying 12 cents a KWH. Heating the ceramic creates a more even heat. The EP does not outperform the Lasko. As for bob vila. I have changed my mind and will not be purchasing the eden pure and will no longer trust Mr. Vila as someone who has MY best interest at heart. Also in the month I ran the Edenpure unit I saw an increase of about 8% on my electric bill versus the radiator unit. Referrals increase your chances of interviewing at IMPACT by 2x. The heated air is still coming through the ductwork, and when it reaches the closed vent, it has built up pressure which makes that much more of your heated air be lost through the small openings between the pieces of ductwork. Installing a water heater replacement costs between $845 and $1,698, or an average of $1,271, for a tank-based unit and labor. Patents by Inventor Bill Burkett. Needless to say, i WILL NOT be buying any expensive heating units with misleading claims of their efficiency and lower monthly savings. If you need a space heater and you want to needlessly make someone rich by buying something over-priced, by all means go with the Eden. Most heat guns even have a little twist flap on the back which does this to the heat gun so you can adjust the heat output it has nothing but coving up the airflow to adjust temp. Depending on how long you allow your electric heater to run during the colder winter months, you could see an increase in your electricity usage, along with a higher electricity bill. Yes other heaters have safety cut off switches but there not much good if your sofa has set on fire because the fire was too close. They said they could not do a refund because it was past the 60 days and I said I thought the 60 day thing was for the smart people that decided they didn't want it, not for a DEFECTIVE product of which I have received 2 in a row.Anyway they refused to refund my money so I guess I'm just stuck with this piece of junk. Question: What is the best portable heater? I bought 2 refurbished EP heaters 8 years ago and both are still working just fine. So all the rest is just hype , Shame on Bob Vella. Because an electric furnace needs to generate heat, it uses far more electricity than an air conditioning unit as it works to keep your home warm. I have no complaints. I just received an ad in the mail for a Comfort Furnace, Infrared Heater, that has all the same claims as the Eden Pure and selling for $329.00 (sale price) and a 3 yr warranty. Some Of there customers are saving and are willing to talk about it. For under $100, you can buy a better-looking, better-built heater that will serve your needs for years to come. If you rent, I would go with the DuraFlame at half the price and monitor the use, wear sweats, socks, and you will not only save money, you will be warm enough and have lower bills.+. Frame homes use a radiant barrier as a film on the foam insulation on the outside of the home.
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