Updated 737 options packages reflecting operational improvements and changes to the global 737 fleet. Interchangeable equipment options for cockpit instrumentation We do this in order to keep conversations personal and familiar. Highly sophisticated logical simulation of onboard information systems and aircraft management. In PMDGs forum, Robert S. Randazzo, the head of PMDG, confers the highest accolades on his sound designer, and I would like to echo this praise. Have fun! It is reassuring, though, that the developers are hard at work on a solution, and we are sure that PMDG will soon be able to offer such a solution. Holger: I recently talked to a flightsim-crazy airline pilot it might even have been you, Oski. At this point I do not want to enter into the tiresome discussion about different V-speeds, for instance between TOPCAT and FMC. It issued a directive ordering that airlines check them for faults. The investment has been worthwhile; with very high display settings, MyTraffic, ActiveSkyEvolution and REX2 clouds, the PMDG flies absolutely fluidly at a Mega airport with a good 20+x fps; at the gate, frames may dip to 12-15 on occasion. Includes the the 737-900ER in passenger configuration with both blended winglets and split scimitar winglet configurations. For my taste, the NGX feels very good. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. With this present product, however, the shadows are very few and far between. The image galleries on airliners.net dont really help either, because many of the images have been post-processed and stretched. Accurate resolution cockpit displays On the other hand, it is not a simple matter to mix the various sounds correctly. You can also use the RESET in the event one side falls down. Well, in direct comparison with other 737 NG implementations I have to say that overall, the VC in those implementations is noticeably lower, making the view through the forward window less high and wider. Ok thanks, now I know where to look. This assessment depends on important factors particularly the personal controller settings. No, on the contrary: To start the engines, you. Better solutions to this are possible, as A2A, for example, have demonstrated strikingly with their sound system. The hydraulic cylinders of the slaps and flaps are also modelled in 3D. I really took the system to its extremes here. So in that respect there is not really a lot that is innovative. What use is the most detailed systems simulation if I have to click through three sub-panels in critical phases of flight with high workload? New York John F Kennedy International Airport (KJFK), The Janitor - An Interview with Tom Allensworth, Interview with Joshua Howard Re MS FLIGHT - March 2012, Interview with LMOC Re P3D - September 2012, The AVSIM Hack - First Published in May, 2009, The AVSIM Hack - The Full Story - Published April 2013. This is very inconvenient and detracts from the overall impression. endobj Another point that definitely deserves a positive mention: All of the load management passengers, cargo and fuel, including the correct distribution across the aircraft is carried out from the cockpit via the CDU. Be sure to click the "Show Signatures" box. For FSX, this is a real quantum leap and the system is perfect for the PMDG 737 NGX. This is accomplished without overly large rudder deflections and is easy to stabilize my feeling, as I have already mentioned, is that it is a little too easy! Even more so if it takes place at your PC at home with a system that may have cost 1.700,- in a generous case and can only deliver a corresponding performance. Also make sure ALTN is set to AUTO not MAN. Check if the packs are turned on. In the beginning, the acoustic backdrop seemed almost too loud to me, but if I hark back to the pre-9/11 era I recall that various airliner cockpit visits at the time really left a similar impression on me. Boeing had said earlier that the reported issues with the switches didn't pose a safety concern. But I have every trust in the expertise of PMDGs team and in the communitys swarm intelligence. After all, this is an add-on that has been awaited for a very long time, with the focus of interest lying on the desire for a realistic implementation of the real aircraft. My solution to this has been the VRInsight MCP combo on one hand and a touch screen on the other. To be sure, the NGX sets new standards in a few areas that all future aircraft will need to be measured by but it also does have its flaws, even if they only marginally impact the overall impression. I dont know. Oski: Well, its always a bit difficult to judge the sound on a PC. The investment has been worthwhile; with very high display settings, MyTraffic, ActiveSkyEvolution and REX2 clouds, the PMDG flies absolutely fluidly at a Mega airport with a good 20+x fps; at the gate, frames may dip to 12-15 on occasion. Stefan, can this complexity actually be operated well? Add to this the effects on flight characteristics, systems, gauges, and so on and so on to tell the truth, I am amazed that a simulation of this depth and visual quality is even possible on a single PC. Any modern flight guidance system can handle it though only of course if the initial situation is correct. Did you set your cruise altitude on the overhead? Also, flaps and spoilers have to be assigned to a key combination or joystick axis if you want to fly in 2D mode only, or you have to switch to the VC to operate them with the mouse. Its the same sound as the takeoff config alarm, but I get it when landing. Can the PMDG be flown by the numbers? If you are hearing a long, continuous beep it is probably a configuration warning. WebPMDG 737 very loud and constant beep alarm when about to land. You can probably tell that many of these questions will not interest most virtual Boeing captains, who follow the motto: Can I use this to recreate my last summer holiday flight or not? But those who have knowledge of the subject matter and know what the different configuration options mean will find great satisfaction in them. The reason is simple: The PMDG B737 NGX has really been simulated almost completely in all systems including Flight Guidance, of course. The auto/manual mode could cause this. It has nothing to do with the cruise alt setting or the land alt setting. The depiction is clear and has very good performance within the limits of the available data after all these do come from the FSX terrain model. You are left with only two options: Either you move the FMC back to the main screen, or you use the mouse in the old-fashioned way and click around on the input pad until your fingers are sore. Firstly it's amazing!!! If there is something to find fault with in comparison with a real autopilot it would be that turns are sometimes initiated a bit harshly in normal LNAV cruise. Are there any operations that can only be performed in the 2D panel? Quite apart from the CTDs, the general principle of course always applies that where there is light, there is also shadow. I stoppped the first flight and later did another that went the same way. My old computer, a first-generation quad core with 2.93 GHz (QX6800) should probably be able to handle the PMDG, too, but a mixture of complex sceneriesandthe 737 NGX would definitely be pushing it! Forums. In such conditions, a flow experience will never come about. Thanks. And at this point, I again need to make an important digression: As usual, I have read the whole spectrum of assessments in the PMDG forums from too sensitive to too sluggish. 510 minutes are enough to configure the rest of the systems for home use. And this is why the better the sound, the better the overall impression. From what i can remember L and R packs were set to auto, ISO valve auto, bleed 1 & 2 on and APU bleed off and no illuminations out of the ordinary. We use cookies to improve your experience on our site and to show you personalised advertising. Depends what aircraft you are flying. Edit: page 31 of the introduction PDF I turned off the autopilot, but I cant silence the alarm. But the general impression is very good. This New Generation has a few years under its belt now, and the overhead panel really doesnt look exactly super-modern to put it mildly. It is, after all, more realistic in the end if all necessary instruments and systems are in plain view. Obviously, George also has problems from time to time with leveling off exactly at a given altitude or predicting a descent point precisely. And so also the FMC of the NGX has a hiccup from time to time. If everything is set correctly, there should be duct pressure in the gauges. IRL, a cabin altitude alarm is something you want to address quickly and correctly. is there a tutorial on how to set this correctly and not get the annoying alarm? Forums Index - All forums; Portal page; MSFS 2020; FSX - FS2004 and Earlier; P3D; X-Plane; Real World Aviation; Other Sims; PC Hardware I don't think those will cause the horn to go off. I probably wont even install the PMDG on my good old dual-core Vista 32-bit PC from Aldi (though other PMDG aircraft and even the FlightSimLabs Concorde run quite acceptably on it). PMDGs product philosophy aims not only to deliver a realistic airliner implementation but also to offer corresponding accessories. CRZ alt and DES alt was set correctly in the pressurization panel so what else should I be checking? However, it said that in September, an unnamed airplane operator reported that both switches had failed on three different 737 models it tested. This makes sense because I presume the max cabin altitude is somewhere in the 8-9000 ft range, but my landing altitude was set to 10,900. Since 1997, we have asked users to sign their real name, first and last, to all posts in the PMDG forum. And if the nitpickers now go searching for non-functional switches or panels, they will quickly find something in this area: The radar image, which can also be overlaid on the ND, does not exist. available from Boeing. I use only a sub-woofer and two tweeters all in all, a pretty standard PC sound system. Stay up to date with what you want to know. Or if the FMC crashes completely because sloppily programmed clickspots cause me to flip the wrong switch on the overhead and power down the flight computers? When I cant fix those I take out my headphones and just make a vroom sound to keep up the immersion. Be sure to click the "Show Signatures" box. as well as other partner offers and accept our. Where high complexity and exact design meet, even a capable family PC can reach its limits. Oski: I dont even have to go that far. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Is the first impression misleading? No doubt there will always be some room for discussion whether the trim sound, say, is too quiet or whether the spoiler extension on landing sounds quite so or a bit different. In the beginning, the acoustic backdrop seemed almost too loud to me, but if I hark back to the pre-9/11 era I recall that various airliner cockpit visits at the time really left a similar impression on me. There is an Alt horn shut-off button its on one of the pressurization panels, if you press that one you will get rid of the alarm sound for the rest of the flight. You need to set the outflow valve to auto. <> All of the various equipment and setup variants are also controlled via the CDU this is intuitive, and changes are made at once. Once you start to achieve your first successes with this, you should be ready to hazard a step into a real Level D simulator and try your hand at the real thing. Why dont I say it deserves the maximum rating? In general I do have to say that the FMC runs quite stably and without errors. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. HiI have just done two flight in the 737-800NGX Winglets aircraft and on both at one point or another in climb i got the cabin altitude warning hor 1) SIGN YOUR POSTS. In the PMDG, the whole panel is somehow less wide, everything in the VC seems more confined. The exterior and interior model are based on the original blueprints from Seattle. Or if the FMC crashes completely because sloppily programmed clickspots cause me to flip the wrong switch on the overhead and power down the flight computers? Holger: The complexity is of course not restricted to the systems simulation but continues with the visual model. In my view, PMDG has made clear advances here. Would be nice if the plane could tell you on a PFD. But they do occur: In the PMDG forums, more than a few customers have been puzzled by sudden crashes not crashes from the cruise flight levels but ones of a technical nature. Honeywell or Collins MCP? So lets leave it at very good or excellent. To me, the acoustic environment in the cockpit is tightly woven and convincing. The following image shows an example of this that occurred with the SID RWY 28 ZUE 1V in LSZH. Emi is a IRL 737 pilot and most everything you need to know is well described in the various vids on his channel. Why do I have that red warning light and how can I solve it? Tom Allensworth, But these are minor points, and moreover they depend on subjective perception. Information Developer: Precision Manuals Development Group, PMDG Distributor: PMDG Home page:http://www.precisionmanuals.com/ Price: 69,99 US $, available through PMDG, Authors: Oskar Oski Wagner Dr. Stefan Benzinger Holger Kistermann. "A latent failure of both pressure switches could result in the loss of cabin altitude warning, which could delay flight crew recognition of a lack of cabin pressurization, and result in incapacitation of the flight crew due to hypoxia (a lack of oxygen in the body), and consequent loss of control of the airplane," the agency said. The commitment that this requires in terms of cost and time should not be underestimated. Oski: In simming, expert is always a relative term. Click here for more information and to see all donations year to date. Here, at least, there are no wrong entries, but the procedures themselves are flown very imprecisely. In this respect, the NGX is a new benchmark by which many future developers as well as future alternatives to FSX as a platform will be measured. If it breaks any of the above rules or can be easily answered by our FAQ, it will be deleted. An important indicator is always the transition to single-engine flight. The only other thing I see is that you have the flight level pressure set to FL250 and you are at FL260. But I have every trust in the expertise of PMDGs team and in the communitys swarm intelligence. Each configuration can be tuned further to ones hearts content. But I dont want to overstress this. Stefan: Well, in direct comparison with other 737 NG implementations I have to say that overall, the VC in those implementations is noticeably lower, making the view through the forward window less high and wider. Non related things I saw : Your off schedule descent is telling you, you never reached that altitude. Holger: Frank, who recently wrote the review for the DA-20 Katana, pointed out the cockpit crew animations to me. check out the. When in AUTO MODE, or ALTERNATE (ALTN is a second automatic function, same as the AUTO mode) there is no way to reach the cabin altitude warning pressure. After this review, we will write a comparison between PMDG and iFly. WebPMDG Failure Name in FMC: PRESSURIZATION -> PRESSURE HULL INTEGRITY Note 1: Trigger this failure above 14,000 feet Note 2: The Cabin Altitude warning horn is your In my view, PMDG has made clear advances here. PMDG recommends the use of a 64-bit operating system. Each Boeing plane has two pressure switches on board as a safeguard in case one fails, following a 2012 FAA mandate. Though iFly has won the race with PMDG to be the first to release, many enthusiasts see PMDGs product as being far out in front after all, PMDGs developers have already delivered impressive proof of their skill in the shape of other complex airliner simulations. By the way: This is the second part of our three-part 737 NG review special. Once to disengage and once to silence the warning its disengaged. They don't add air to the cabin.Kevin Hall. You will become aware of many details you would not previously have paid attention to. After all, they convert the data according to the add-on developers specifications.